Bullshit Isn’t Vegan

At least so says Skeptical Vegan in Homeopathy, Unethical Quackery. I see vegans peddling alotta bullshit so I might challenge his final assertion:

All I have left to say is in my book homeopathy isn’t vegan, it’s 100% bull crap!

Still, since vegans fret over homeopathetical amounts of isinglass they might similarly be concerned about the duck’s liver in Oscillococcinum. You would ingest more molecules of animal products just walking by a McDonalds though. There’s also lactose base in most tablets and animal testing involved. Perhaps an appeal of animal ingredients or animal testing is what it takes for vegans to shun homeopathy but I think a general sense of reason is all it takes.

6 comments to Bullshit Isn’t Vegan

  • Colinski

    Problem is, humans are more accurately described as rationalizing beings rather than rational beings. Studies in social psychology demonstrate again and again that beliefs and opinions rarely line up with behavior. You can bitch all you want about people’s lack of reason, but human beings don’t work that way. Everyone views themselves as a reasonable person; problem is, the brain is very good at performing mental gymnastics to alleviate cognitive dissonance.

    Do you get the Skeptic Society’s e-newsletter? Very interesting interview with Carol Tavris that talks some about how skeptics fall short in convincing people, because just telling people they’re wrong doesn’t work the majority of the time.

  • Yeah, I often refer to humans as fancy monkeys. Science and skepticism are our best tools of reason to leverage against our innate irrationality. I’m actually reading Travis’s latest book: Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me) and I do get that telling somebody an idea is wrong isn’t the end-all-be-all of skeptic activism. It doesn’t though, make it unwarranted.

  • Adam

    The core error of this post is that the objection to the use of isinglass isn’t about it going into the mouth, but that it is used at all. If, for some reason, farmers harvested broccoli by killing an animal for every stalk, that broccoli would not be vegan because its production methods require the use (and killing) of an animal. For this reason, the clever analogy between homeopathy and isinglass filtered liquids falls apart.

  • Adam

    A similar argument might be that we shouldn’t be phased by sweatshop-produced clothings if we take a position against sweatshops because a “homeopathetically small” amount of underage worker skin tissue will end up in the product or be absorbed into our bodies.

  • Adam,

    Actually you’re right. Animals ARE killed in the harvesting of broccoli and not only that crop. What do vegans eat then if not plants? Also what about the materials in the packages of products? The glues, labels, inks, dyes, pesticides, transportation, etc. Do vegans also shun packaged products?

  • I farm 21 acres and sadly many small mammals are killed one way or another every year. Actually quite a few. You can imagine why: they consider my crops THEIR grocery store. They damage the crops which leads to fungi and bacteria and disease and crop loss and lower yields less efficiency for the precious resources used to grow the crop. Its unfortunate and it hurts me to think about. My option is to let someone else farm but that would not change the fact that being vegan does not indicate no animals were harmed.

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